COLI Meeting Summary- International Forum of Process Analytical Chemistry (IFPAC) Conference, January 23, 2002

INTRODUCTIONS:

End-Users:

Analyzer Vendors:

Chemometrics Vendors:

Academia/Government:

DISCUSSION:

Where we are, and where we’re going:

Dave Marrow began the discussion by noting that this initiative, which is supported by CPAC, is still rather new<. The purpose of this meeting, and other such meetings throughout the year, is to generate interest and solicit feedback on the on the concept of facilitating “open architecture” on-line chemometrics software solutions. It is hoped that we will be soon be able to generate a “critical mass” of interest and participation, which will enable this initiative to become self-sustaining.

The organization of this initiative involves several different entities:

At this time, as the initiative seems to be gaining momentum, it is important that we define its identity and scope. This needs to be defined in terms of several factors:

With these questions in mind, the discussion was opened.

Open Discussion:

Neal G.: his IFPAC talk summarizes the needs for on-line chemometrics; must have some kind of standard – a file standard or a communication standard (like Active-X); such standards currently exist in the process control/DCS world- could we leverage their knowledge?

Bruce M.: as an instrument vendor, is rather nervous about the direction of the initiative; are we to offer vendors a set of “rules” on how to interface with another prediction module? Would rather have a standard “library” of Real-time algorithms; also sees intellectual property issues with “homemade” algorithms

Dave M: ExxonMobil has “homemade” methods, but needs a common framework on which to implement them

Mike P.: can develop a “hierarchy” of data processing routines

Bruce M: another layer of prediction methods triggered by control events?

Neal G: lots of different data pre-processing methods to consider as well; end users are concerned that software solutions will not be “open source”

Brian R.: it will be a challenge of this initiative to preserve the intellectual property/competitive position of vendor companies

Paul G.: suggests adopting an object-oriented approach: “object” contains both model and preprocessing parameters, along with code that expresses the model; end user can assemble object in any order; however, will need an “engine” that links such objects together, as well as an individual to build the objects; also, would need specifications for the objects.

Bruce M.: should we build CFR-11 (regulatory data flow restrictions) into any of our standards?

Dave M.: regulatory issues should not have an impact on our final objective

Neal G: we should keep in touch with other CPAC initiatives: connectivity (CONNi)- developments in OPC, and modular sampling systems (NeSSI) – sensor fusion applications

Mary T.: an easier on-line chemometrics package would enable easier model “robustness testing”

Bruce M.: a standard for data format and algorithms might be of value, but need to consider audit trail issues for applications in regulated industries

Steve B: standards are easy to set up, once their objectives are defined

Paul G: model parameters can be exported with embedded code as a single object; object can be executed in Matlab, C++, etc…; software validation can be up to the individual vendors. 

Brian R.: some folks sell models to others, and don’t want to disclose calibration data- this is not an issue unless the calibration data is needed to execute the model (for example, in LWR)

Mike P.: need a well-defined model diagnostic metric; there are several out there already- for example, some use a “Q” value, while others use prediction “residual” or “Mahalanobis Distance”

Paul G: I/O standard; will need to allow modeler to specify “objects” to be included in model output; like model diagnostics, there are a lot of different statistical figures of merit! Could specify a “core” of recommended model outputs

Neal: NIST had done some testing of statistical packages- perhaps we could use data, standards from their testing to test/compare different on-line chemometrics approaches?

Chuck M.: any limitations of object-oriented solutions? (for example, operating systems?)

Paul G.: if active-X is used to pass objects, then operating system would not be an issue

Brian R.: has economic concerns regarding this initiative- it could make existing vendor’s products less-valuable

Paul G.: does not agree- sees lot of value in a good user-interface for both development and implementation

Brian R: but some vendors already have products for both (for example, Informetrix’s Pirouette and In-Step)

Brian R.: we will need to set up a way to get analyzer data into chemometrics packages- is this really an issue anymore?

Dave M: should we develop another JCAMP? (big sigh from the audience!)

Brian R:  “Net CDF” (??) is the most global solution, but is more suited for software engineers, and more of a “black box”- not really “open source”

Dave M: 4 questions regarding standard data formats:

  1. Is one required in order for COLI to meet its objectives?
  2. Can we reasonably expect to be able to deliver a specification for a standard data format?
  3. Is the Mathworks .MAT an acceptable format?
  4. What other possible formats are available (we would prefer to use an existing format rather than to develop a new format!)

Post-Meeting Discussion: Name Change?

After the meeting, Dave M., Neal G., and Chuck M. discussed the possibility of changing the name of the initiative. It was thought that the “On-Line” part of the name “Chemometrics On-Line Initiative (COLI)” can give the wrong impression of an internet-based initiative. In addition, there’s a concern about the negative connotations of the “COLI” acronym. We agreed that some mention of the words “Process Analytics” in the title would provide a more accurate description of the initiative. Based on this, we came up with the title “Chemometrics for On-Line Process Analytics (COPA)”. Unless we hear any strong objections from you, we will use this new name and acronym starting after the Pittcon meeting.

Attendees at COLI Discussion- IFPAC 2002 (at least, those who signed the register..):

Neal B. Gallagher
PO Box 561
Manson, WA 98831
Eigenvector Research, Inc.
509-687-1039
 
Brian Rohrback
Infometrix, Inc.
PO Box 1528
Woodinville, WA 98072
425-402-1450
 
Bruce McIntosh
Hamilton Sunstrand Sensor Systems
2711 N. Garey Ave.
Pomona, CA 91767
909-593-3581 ex 6106
bruce.mcintosh@hs.utc.com
 
Mary Thomson
Remspec Corporation
512 Leadmine Road
Sturbridge, MA 01566
508-248-1462 ex 203
mat@remspec.com
 
Mike Doyle
Axiom Analytical, Inc.
177510B Sky Park Circle
Irvine, CA 92614
949-757-9300
mdoyle@goaxiom.com
 
Mike Power
Convergent Solutions
235 E. 20th Street
Idaho Falls, ID 83404
 
Blayne Hirsche
Axiom Analytical
17751 Sky Park Circle #1B
Irvine, CA 92614
Bhrische@goaxiom.com
 
Aerenton F. Bueno
Petrobras
S Jose Dos Campos
Brazil
Aerenton@petrobras.com.br
 
Troy W. Francisco
Senior Staff Scientist
Process Analyhtical Chemistry
Fluorine Products
Specialty Materials
Honeywell
Buffalo Research Laboratory
20 Peabody Street
Buffalo, NY 14210
716-827-6368
716-827-6236 fax
888-538-2444 jpager
troy.francisco@honeywell.com
 
Frank K. Schweighardt
Manager
Process Measurement Technology
Air Products and Chemicals, Inc.
7201 Hamilton Blvd.
Allentown, PA 18195-1501
610-481-6683
610-481-6517 fax
800-759-8888 pin #1739487 pager
schweifk@apci.com
 
Donald C. Young
Staff Scientist
Integrated Laboratory Technologies-Petroleum Chemistry
Chevron Research and Technology Company
100 Chevron Way
PO Box 1627
Richmond, CA 94802-0627
510-242-3298
510-242-1792 fax
dcyo@chevron.com
 
Steve Doherty (for Bob Roginski)
Pharmacia Corp.
4901 Searle Parkway
Skokie, IL 60077
Rtrogie@pharmacia.com
 
Sharon Deram
SBI Analytical
70 Hickory Lane
Lincolnshire, IL 60069
Spderam@ix.netcom.com
 
Joe Slater
Kaiser Optical Systems
371 Parklamp Plaza
Ann Arbor, MI 48103
Slater@kosi.com
 
Steven D. Brown
Chairman and Professor
University of Delaware
Chemistry & Biochemistry
Newark, Delaware 19716
302-831-1247
302-831-6335 fax
sdb@udel.edu
 
Paul J. Gemperline
Professor
East Carolina University
Department of Chemistry
327 Falanagan Building
Greenville, NC 27858-4353
252-328-6767
252-328-6210
gemperlinep@mail.ecu.edu
 
Dave Marrow
ExxonMobil Chemical Company
Spec Core Process Control/Analytics
Baytown, TX
david.marrow@exxonmobil.com
281-834-1789 office
281-834-1509 fax
281-380-8433
 
Chuck Miller
DuPont Engineering Technologies
140 Cypress Station Drive
Houston TX  77090
281-586-2545
281-586-2504 (fax)
charles.e.miller@usa.dupont.com